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Interview with Frank Fischer
Of Breadbox Computer Systems
Breadbox Pens GEOS Exclusive License
and Ownership Rights Agreement with
Geoworks
Port Richey, Florida, April 29, 2003
Under the terms of an amended
licensing agreement with Geoworks of
Emeryville, California, effective
April 1, 2003, Breadbox Computer
Company, LLC of Port Richey, Florida,
has obtained the worldwide exclusive
and perpetual rights to the patented
GEOS operating system for all hardware
platforms. As part of the agreement
and in addition to undisclosed
financial and other terms, Breadbox
has agreed to take on certain of
Geoworks' technical support
liabilities to third parties. In
addition, under the terms of the
agreement, all ownership rights of the
Geos operating system will pass to
Breadbox at an undisclosed date. Prior
to the ownership transfer, Breadbox
has the right to bring claims against
third parties for violations of
Geoworks' intellectual property rights
in the licensed technology.
Everyone who is a C64 owner loves GEOS
right? One of the major feats of soft-
ware engineering getting a graphic
operating system onto the C64 with the
minimum of hardware requirements. Geos
will run with just one floppy disk. But
whatever happened to the people behind
Geos and is the product still sold,
Also some speculation has arisen about
what rights Maurice Randel has to the
Goes operating system.
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Please introduce yoursef to our readers
BREADBOX COMPUTER SYSTEMS
My name is Frank Fischer and I'm the
President & CEO of Breadbox Computer
Company, LLC. Breadbox continues to
carry the Geos torch as all other Geos
related companies have disappeared
over the years. You can find us at
www.breadbox.com on the internet.
John Howard, our VP & CTO & I are
responding to Nigel's questions below.
CF. Do you own the rights to CMD
version of Geos?
BCS. To be honest, I'd have to check
with our attorneys, but I believe we
do, as well as the Apple version.
Frank Fischer. Can you explain the
Difference between the CMD 8 bit
version of geos and Geoworks the
version you acquired are they the same
product?
BCS The C= and PC versions of Geos
are the same only in that they were
designed with the same philosophy in
mind. They both sport an incredibly
easy to learn graphical user interface
and were very much ahead of their
times when they were introduced. They
were both designed in an era when
programming efficiencies in memory
usage & speed optimizations paid big
dividends in usability.
CF. So are you in any way connected
with Maurice Randall from Click-here-
software?
BCS. No, not at all.
CF. Can you explain a little history
about the Company and how you came to
acquire the rights to Geos.
BCS. Breadbox was founded in 1992 by
Frank S. Fischer as a sole
proprietorship. Since then the company
has gone through several changes. In
1997 Breadbox became a privately held
Florida C-corporation with several
shareholders, and the new name of the
corporation became Breadbox Computer
Company. In June of 2000, the Company
sold most of its assets (software) to
MyTurn.com, Inc., a publicly traded
company (NASDQ-MYTN). MyTurn.com has
since filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy in
the first quarter of 2001 and was
liquidated.
Breadbox filed a lawsuit for default
on the contract. The lawsuit has been
settled & ownership of the copyrighted
Breadbox software has been returned to
Breadbox in accordance with the
contract of sale.
While bootstrapping the company to its
present day state, Breadbox had become
the leading 3rd party developer of the
GEOS software and hardware/software
products worldwide. A small portion of
the Company's revenue stream continues
to come from the retail sales of the
GEOS desktop, PDA & Nokia Communicator
products from the Breadbox web site.
Breadbox also received revenue from
licensing its products to other
companies utilizing the GEOS OS.
Brother International & New Deal, Inc.
were the Company's major licensees.
Brother no longer distributes GEOS-
based products & New Deal, Inc. is out
of business.
Breadbox has since purchased all
rights, title and interest in the GEOS
OS from Geoworks. Geoworks has also
gone out of business.
The majority of Breadbox past revenue
streams have come from contract
development projects. Several of the
Company's larger customers include
Nokia, Xerox, Brother, Geoworks,
MyTurn.com and to a lesser extent, New
Deal, Inc. Breadbox was the official
GEOS SDK training company for Geoworks
and Nokia worldwide and was awarded the
coveted "Nokia Best Developer Award" in
1999. Under contract, Breadbox
developed the Nokia WAP browser for
the Nokia 9110 series of Communicators
running the GEOS OS. Breadbox also
developed the Mobile Doc client for
Xerox for use on the Nokia 9110
Communicators. Breadbox continues to
support the GEOS OS on all platforms as
well as the Nokia line of Communicators
& other phones utilizing the Symbian OS
Please visit the Company's web site at
www.breadbox.com for more information
about Breadbox & our current products &
services.
CF. Should we call the version of Geos
you acquired something else Geos 16bit
what do you call the product now?
BCS. The version we concentrate on is
commonly called PC Geos, which is 16
bit. As we strive to improve & update
the OS, internally we call the revised
OS project we're trying to build Geos
32 (for 32 bit).
CF. Do any of your staff remember the
C64 version of Geos?
BCS. Several of our programmers began
Geos development on the C= & our VP &
CTO started his Geos programming career
coding for the C= version Geos. He was
published twice in the old C= magazine
"Compute's! Gazette". He sold his C64
at a yard sale after he made the switch
to PC Geos in 1995.
CF. Was the PC version of Geos based in
anyway on the Commodore Version, & do
you know if it was first produced by
the same company?
BCS. C64 Geos was developed by Berkeley
Softworks. They transitioned C64 Geos
to PC Geos & changed their name to
GeoWorks, & later Geoworks.
CF. Is there still much demand for Geos
as a product?
BCS. No, but we're always trying to
change that.
CF. on What devices can our user find
Geos running?
BCS. PCs, Brother GeoBooks, GlobalPCs,
Nokia 9000 & 9110 series Smart Phones,
HP 100 & 120 OmniGos, Casio Zoomers &
others.
CF. what does Geos comprise of as a
system, what software is included?
BCS. Well, we currently offer our
latest PC desktop suite called
Breadbox Ensemble. Please visit our
Website at www.breadbox.com for
complete information about what's
included.
CF. Would there be any plans to Support
the C64 with Geos & incorporate some of
the newer hardware that has emerged for
the C64?
BCS. No.
CF. Assuming a sponsor could be found
what would be a rough cost to transfer
the newer version of Geos you produce
to the C64?
BCS. I don't think it could be done at
any price.
CF. What are the hardware requirements
for the PC version of Geos?
BCS. 386 PC with SVGA video, 128MB RAM
and a 40MB hard drive & a DOS (MS-DOS,
Caldera DOS, DataLite DOS, FreeDOS).
The Ensemble suite of applications uses
about 16MB of harddrive space
CF. Do any of your staff still use C=
machines & are still following the C=
Scene?
BCS. Not that we're aware of.
CF. Would you like to add any other
comments?
I think users would be pleasantly
surprised at how far the latest PC
version of Geos has grown. Although
we're certainly in a less than
significant position of dominance in
the general consumer marketplace, we
believe there are niche markets
available to Geos. We're currently in
the process of trying to raise funding
to develop a one-to-one computing
device for the educational market
worldwide utilizing Geos & our
educational & productivity software
applications. If you know of any
potential investors that might be
interested, please send them our way!
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Maurice is selling GEOS is this OK?
Maurice contacted me several years ago
& we discussed his situation. He's
(legally) ok selling Geos for the C=.
Thanks,
Frank